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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:45 pm 
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Jesus the Bernstein whining about this is ridiculous. Good god man. They're acting like they hired John Wayne Gacy to play for them.
Bears gave him a chance, he blew it, no outlay of cash, it's over before it started so no harm no foul who gives a goddamn.



But they needed show fodder. :roll:

But good god Berns is like "DO YOU KNOW WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL? I CANT TRUST THEIR INTELLIGENCE!"
Really dude?
Fucking guy needs a gasoline shower and a blowtorch.

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Blacklisting players sounds like a wonderful idea.



Never forgiving others seems to be a better idea to many here.

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Blacklisting players sounds like a wonderful idea.



Never forgiving others seems to be a better idea to many here.


That's makes sense until they are falsely accused or ask for forgiveness.

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Nas wrote:
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Blacklisting players sounds like a wonderful idea.



Never forgiving others seems to be a better idea to many here.


That's makes sense until they are falsely accused or ask for forgiveness.



They are never wrong.

Problem solved.

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Players are not going to be blacklisted.

Amazing that some in this thread have taken this idiotic personnel move and tried to turn it into a social commentary. It was a bad move then and it's a bad move now. Ray McDonald is not the missing piece to a Super Bowl.

And is if the Bears didn't look dumb enough over this, the owner comes out again today and mentions victim bias.

"On Tuesday, a partial recording released by the California Highway Patrol had a 911 caller — identifying herself as the mother of the alleged victim — saying McDonald was drunk upon his arrival. He was arrested at another residence.
On Wednesday, the Mercury News acquired more complete audio. Here are some of the latest details:
The 3:48 a.m. emergency call, which was relayed to Santa Clara police, also alleged that when the woman tried to barricade herself in a bedroom with the infant she had with McDonald, the 6-foot-3, 290-pound defense lineman “broke down” the door and tried to take the baby from her before leaving, by himself, in a car
“She said she received a call from her daughter … advising that her boyfriend Ray McDonald was being violent,” the dispatcher said. “She tried to lock herself in her bedroom but he broke the door down … Ex is trying to leave now with her infant.”

We all just need to forgive.


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Why was it a bad signing? By all accounts he was a good guy and many believed that the woman was lying. It's not like they signed Adrian Peterson or Greg Hardy.

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Why was it a bad signing? By all accounts he was a good guy and many believed that the woman was lying. It's not like they signed Adrian Peterson or Greg Hardy.


Unnecessary. The Bears were and are not a Ray McDonald away from a Super Bowl. High risk/low reward.

Greg Hardy. What does just about everyone say about the Cowboys? "If they only had a pass rusher" Personally, I wouldn't sign the guy but I can see why Jerry did. Way, way better player but a seems to be a bigger scumbag. High risk/high reward.


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Fangio still saying he is a good guy. Ughhhh......doing 99% good things, doesnt make it OK.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.

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Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.


Wrong.

2013 214 rushes 660 yards 3.1 avg. 44 YPG

That's why he's not playing and AP is.


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Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.


Good that the NFL isnt the kingdom of Hypocrisy

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Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.


Good that the NFL isnt the kingdom of Hypocrisy

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Peoria Matt wrote:
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Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.


Wrong.

2013 214 rushes 660 yards 3.1 avg. 44 YPG

That's why he's not playing and AP is.





He had a contract that was voided incorrectly and the NFL lost. Or do you forget that press conference where the Ravens stood behind him?

He's not playing because he's been blacklisted.

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Ray Rice isn't playing because he sucks. Adrian Peterson is playing because he's good.

Simple as that.

Now, there may be a blackball list for an average player. Or even slightly above average. That's gonna be McDonald now.


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Seacrest wrote:
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Players are not going to be blacklisted.


Tell that to Ray Rice.


Wrong.

2013 214 rushes 660 yards 3.1 avg. 44 YPG

That's why he's not playing and AP is.





He had a contract that was voided incorrectly and the NFL lost. Or do you forget that press conference where the Ravens stood behind him?

He's not playing because he's been blacklisted.


Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson are playing because they are productive. 1 of them is one of the top running backs in the league and the other has 33 sacks in 4 full seasons. Leonard Little killed someone while drunk driving. Lawrence Phillips dragged his girlfriend down a flight of stairs and was drafted 6th overall by the Rams.

If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


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Arrested again today. Guy is on a roll.


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Seacrest will offer him a position.

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Not apologizing for this goof but the CBS story says he was not served yet with the restraining order not to go back to her.

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Seacrest wrote:
He's not playing because he's been blacklisted.


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Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson are playing because they are productive. 1 of them is one of the top running backs in the league and the other has 33 sacks in 4 full seasons. Leonard Little killed someone while drunk driving. Lawrence Phillips dragged his girlfriend down a flight of stairs and was drafted 6th overall by the Rams.

If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


The Ravens held press conference when his incident with his wife was reported. They initially planned to keep him. Your opinion of his skill set doesn't agree with the Ravens front office.

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He's not playing because he's been blacklisted.


Peoria Matt wrote:
Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson are playing because they are productive. 1 of them is one of the top running backs in the league and the other has 33 sacks in 4 full seasons. Leonard Little killed someone while drunk driving. Lawrence Phillips dragged his girlfriend down a flight of stairs and was drafted 6th overall by the Rams.

If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


The Ravens held press conference when his incident with his wife was reported. They initially planned to keep him. Your opinion of his skill set doesn't agree with the Ravens front office.


Hmmm.....I don't know....maybe they don't think he's worth the trouble? Quite a backlash over this specific case. Because....again just a guess....he's not a real good running back anymore?

So if Ray Rice is 25 years old, do you think they bring him back?


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Former Bears defensive end Ray McDonald was arrested for the second time in three days Wednesday — on suspicion of violating the restraining order given him after Monday’s arrest on suspicion of misdemeanor domestic violence and child endangerment, according to Santa Clara (Calif.) police.



They're very suspicious of him.

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Peoria Matt wrote:
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He's not playing because he's been blacklisted.


Peoria Matt wrote:
Greg Hardy and Adrian Peterson are playing because they are productive. 1 of them is one of the top running backs in the league and the other has 33 sacks in 4 full seasons. Leonard Little killed someone while drunk driving. Lawrence Phillips dragged his girlfriend down a flight of stairs and was drafted 6th overall by the Rams.

If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


The Ravens held press conference when his incident with his wife was reported. They initially planned to keep him. Your opinion of his skill set doesn't agree with the Ravens front office.


Hmmm.....I don't know....maybe they don't think he's worth the trouble? Quite a backlash over this specific case. Because....again just a guess....he's not a real good running back anymore?

So if Ray Rice is 25 years old, do you think they bring him back?


They were going to bring him back at 30 years old last year.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they would have brought him back at 25 as well.

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Former Bears defensive end Ray McDonald was arrested for the second time in three days Wednesday — on suspicion of violating the restraining order given him after Monday’s arrest on suspicion of misdemeanor domestic violence and child endangerment, according to Santa Clara (Calif.) police.



They're very suspicious of him.


Still not prosecuted. GOOD GUY!

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I have no problem with the Bears signing the guy with the way the contract was worded.

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They were going to bring him back at 30 years old last year.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they would have brought him back at 25 as well.


This is a bit, right? You seriously cannot figure out why Ray Rice isn't on the Ravens or any other team? Did you miss the outrage over this case and the egg that ended up on the NFL's face over a RB on the downside of his career? And you think it's some sort of blackball?

It's because his football skills do not equate the headache of having Ray Rice on your team. Not that hard to understand. Why wasn't Hardy blackballed?

And your "arrested never convicted" guy was arrested again. I'm sure it's a misunderstanding.


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If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


He was given the chance by the Ravens at age 30 after his incident was first reported.

You can bring up whatever else you want but your assertion of his age having something to do with him not playing now is not congruent with what actually happened.

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Then why is Hardy gainfully employed?


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If Ray Rice was 25 years old, you can bet someone would have given him a chance.

Here is how a player gets "blackballed"- he no longer is productive.


He was given the chance by the Ravens at age 30 after his incident was first reported.

You can bring up whatever else you want but your assertion of his age having something to do with him not playing now is not congruent with what actually happened.


Wrong. If Ray Rice the football player was worth the headache, he would be on the team.


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Ray rice wasn't "given a chance" he was under contract. If he was 25 he would be playing this year.

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Ray rice wasn't "given a chance" he was under contract. If he was 25 he would be playing this year.



The Ravens didn't initially cut him. As a matter of fact, they said they were standing behind him.

So...the Ravens chose to keep him at 30. Which by most math equations is five years older than 25.

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