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For telling the story of what went down on SNL 40. His experience and how Eddie Murphy got cold feet on playing Bill Cosby in "Celebrity Jepordy".

I like people who can tell a good story. He's one of them. Did it all on twitter in like 20 posts or so.

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Don't think it was the tranny. I think it was giving up cocaine. He got civilized and proper. Sucked the "Funny" out of him. It's a damn shame.


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So was Chris Rock telling Eddie's story in his recent movie Top Five?

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About 10 or 15 years ago he tried to be a serious actor. He was nominated for something a few years ago. I forget. I didn't see it. For best actor. He didn't win and he was pissed. His reaction when they announced the winner was one of disgust. I mean he knew the camera would be on him. You gotta fake be happy for the other guy even if you're pissed. He didn't.


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So was Chris Rock telling Eddie's story in his recent movie Top Five?


That's what people say. I didn't see it. Was it good?

Chris Rock worships Eddie.


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So was Chris Rock telling Eddie's story in his recent movie Top Five?


That's what people say. I didn't see it. Was it good?

Chris Rock worships Eddie.

It was decent to me. I think the critics liked it which doesn't mean much a lot of times but it doesn't hurt.

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When I saw Norm I was shocked, as he was fired from SNL.

He said he walked up to Lorne, shook his hand and said thanks for inviting him back...was good he acknowledged it.

Story about him being fired...

He is on Howards show and and Howard asks "is it true you got fired from SNL for not doing one of Lornes movies in the summer?"

Norm 'What? Wait what happened?"

Howards repeats it....and Norm then says 'So you are saying I was fired from SNL for not doing Lornes summer movi projects? Because I didnt say that"

Howard then got it, was kinda funny.

I think it was the "NIGHT AT THE ROXY" Movie that Norm didnt want any part of, and that was the end of him at SNL. Lorne, not such a great guy after all.

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Murphy just needs to resurrect his career by doing a stand up tour. Don't even bother with new material. Just recite "Raw" word for word. He would sell put arenas all over the country.

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When was Lorne ever noted as a good guy?????????

Said no on ever...

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I thought he got fired, in part, for the OJ jokes he did. Before and during the trial. Maybe it wasn't Lorne, but OJ worked for NBC, and some exec liked him. Said no OJ jokes. Norm didn't listen.

I did like Norm's tweet where he said "Said hi to Lorne, got that out of the way." :lol:


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I had always heard that one of NBC's west-coast execs put the pressure on Lorne to fire Norm for all the O.J. jokes. Norm gets more cred from that story than just not wanting to do one of those shitty SNL movies. You can count the good ones on one hand and still have enough fingers left to massage your prostate.

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Murphy just needs to resurrect his career by doing a stand up tour. Don't even bother with new material. Just recite "Raw" word for word. He would sell put arenas all over the country.


Why would a guy worth $100 mill want to do a stand up tour?

Maybe 1 show every 2 months just to stay busy like Seinfeld.

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Dennis Miller and Norm are #1 and #1A on my Weekend Update rankings, by the way.

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The NBC exec was Don Ohlmeyer. He got Norm fired. Not Lorne. Ohlmeyer liked OJ. Here's the story.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/02/norm-macdonald-snl-weekend-update-fired


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bigfan wrote:
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Murphy just needs to resurrect his career by doing a stand up tour. Don't even bother with new material. Just recite "Raw" word for word. He would sell put arenas all over the country.


Why would a guy worth $100 mill want to do a stand up tour?

Maybe 1 show every 2 months just to stay busy like Seinfeld.

People with money always want more money. Eddie isn't making anything nowadays.

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Murphy just needs to resurrect his career by doing a stand up tour. Don't even bother with new material. Just recite "Raw" word for word. He would sell put arenas all over the country.


Why would a guy worth $100 mill want to do a stand up tour?

Maybe 1 show every 2 months just to stay busy like Seinfeld.

People with money always want more money. Eddie isn't making anything nowadays.

he has 3 movies coming out....I guess he did those for free?

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He hasn't been a draw in nearly 15 years. It's just flop after flop.

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It's not the original with Kevin Spacey but I can't find it ANYWHERE so it'll have to do.









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I know he hasn't been a draw in 15 years. But he's worth 85 milion

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/eddie-murphy-net-worth/

And he wants to get his movie roles. No point of doing anything "Risque" at this point in his life to offend the Hollywood elite. Don't get those Disney "Voice over" cartoons if you're controversial. He's 55. That's why he refused to do the Cosby bit.

He's not some washed up broke actor/comedian that has to take a chance to reinvent himself. While he's not making HUGE money for movies, he's still in the loop. Still gets some stuff.

So I get it from his perspective.

Norm is the washed-up, broke, gambling-addicted actor/comedian that needs to get attention. Not Eddie.


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Dennis Miller and Norm are #1 and #1A on my Weekend Update rankings, by the way.


i always liked them, and kevin nealon, the best. but tina fey was awesome as well.

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Eddie has stage fright. That's why he can still be crazy Eddie for something like the Shrek movies but he freezes like a deer in headlights when there is an audience.


‘SNL’ 40th Anniversary: The ‘Eddie Murphy Incident’ Explained
Published 2 days ago by Anthony Ocasio , Updated February 18th, 2015 at 5:08 am,


When Eddie Murphy took the stage during the Saturday Night Live 40th Anniversary Special this past weekend, there was a moment when it appeared the scripted segment had ended and someone in the control room missed the cue to go to commercial. The live camera feed continued and Murphy ad-libbed until a photo came up, fading to an ad break. That is not what happened. Make no mistake: Eddie Murphy freaked out.

The question isn’t “What happened?” so much as “Why did it happen?” Murphy is scared to perform in front of people, essentially – and everyone around him has been trying to coax him into returning to the stage for years. In the original version, you can notice the moment he runs out of scripted material his confidence erodes; there’s no pause as if an error is happening off-stage, but instead Murphy instantly tries to cover. So either a longtime SNL director was so caught up in the celebration that he failed to give the cue to cut to commercial, or Murphy became frightened during extra time on air he did – or did not – know he was going to have before stepping out on that stage. This isn’t the first time he’s been put in this position on television, even – only this time it was live.


Outside of all his many fans, the biggest proponent of Murphy’s comeback has been his longtime friend and Coming to America co-star Arsenio Hall, who has largely been leading the campaign to get Murphy to perform in front of a crowd again, and it’s been going on for years. In 2011, Murphy was briefly announced as host of a Brett Ratner-produced Academy Awards before departing shortly after Ratner resigned from the project. For all intents and purposes, this was his way back to becoming comfortable on stage again, but sadly it never happened.

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In 2012, during Spike TV’s Eddie Murphy: One Night Celebration, an all-star celebration of his Murphy’s career, Hall stepped on the stage to introduce his portion of the evening, then surprised Murphy (see above) by changing the topic to performing on stage again, then getting the audience chanting. Hall jumped off stage and ran over to Murphy, who was forced to turn down the handheld mic while the audience, at this point, was cheering for what was going to happen next. Nothing happened next. Murphy wasn’t ready. Then in 2013, during the release of his reggae song “Red Light” with Snoop Lion, Murphy revealed his plan to return to stand-up to Rolling Stones:

“…[When] I go back to the stage, I want to be able to do everything. I want to be able to do music and comedy and all that stuff, that’s what all this stuff is leading to. Like, we gonna drop this “Red Light” and I’ll probably drop another single or two, and I’ll probably start doing little kick-offs with my band, going around, put a band together, do little small basic shows. Get the band really hot. And then in a year or two, do music and comedy and have a show like nobody ever had before. Ultimately, that’s what it hopefully all just leads to.”

eddie murphy snl 40th anniversary 3 SNL 40th Anniversary: The Eddie Murphy Incident Explained

Rolling Stones recently caught up with Murphy in January 2015 and spoke again about stand-up. This time Murphy had just released his second reggae song after receiving not-so-favorable reviews about his previous release:

“If I came back and did stand-up again, I can’t just be like the other standup comics. To have a real hot band, play some tracks for about 40 minutes, the curtain drops and then you do an hour of jokes? That’s a unique-ass show.”

Years later Murphy is still hopeful about his return to stand-up, in much the same way as before. He doesn’t know what he’s going to do, but he can’t be like other stand-ups; he’s going to have a real hot band, but not one that performs poorly-received reggae songs released years apart; and it’s going to be unique. Right now Murphy needs 40 minutes of “hot” music and 60 minutes of stand up in order to return to the stage, which seems far from obtainable, if we’re all being honest. Perhaps that’s the point.

eddie murphy snl 40th anniversary SNL 40th Anniversary: The Eddie Murphy Incident Explained

Call it stage fright, or what have you, but at a certain point in a comedian’s career, when their schedule and profession takes them out and away from stand-up, they become less and less confident in what skills they once had. The problem with that is, if you don’t continue to perform stand-up, you essentially lose the ability to, which only makes it that much more difficult when you see other people performing, because you begin to forget that you were once able to and are intimidated by the crowd. Nobody likes to fail. The legend among comedians is that Steve Martin famously quit stand-up after seeing a seat empty in his otherwise sold out shows, and he was at the top of his game at the time.

So on Sunday, when Chris Rock lovingly introduced Murphy’s appearance – planned short or not – he mentioned how Murphy used to be great at ad-libbing and filling time on the show, if required, insinuating what should come next from the man in question. Ultimately, Eddie Murphy stepped out on stage and “freaked out” because he wasn’t ready to perform, even though others who still are live performers say he is. Maybe sometime before that moment he thought so to, and maybe the extra time was built-in to the in show, but Murphy changed his mind on the spot and tried to ad-lib his way out of it. Either way, the answer to Sunday’s “moment”: Eddie Murphy was scared to be in front of a live audience.

The real question, however: Is everyone – including Arsenio Hall, Charlie Murphy and Chris Rock – comfortable if Murphy never changes his mind?

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 Post subject: Re: Norm MacDonald
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Dennis Miller and Norm are #1 and #1A on my Weekend Update rankings, by the way.


i always liked them, and kevin nealon, the best. but tina fey was awesome as well.

I think Dennis Miller is on his own level


Colin Quinn was bad. I admit that.

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Eddie Murphy would have been better off not even showing up.

For an accomplished comedian like that to not be funny on cue - just smacks of a Chevy Chase-like degradation of talent. Either that or the complete lack of preparation. Why didn't he at least have a writer to help him out?

I found it incredibly sad.


The guy isn't even old. I have no idea how you get the unfunny in the years most comedians hit their prime.

Part of the problem is that he thinks he is a singer. I blame the limited success of Party All The Time on his downfall. It encouraged him to produce crap.

Then he started to get that Madonna thing where he affects some kind of upper class-English accent.

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It's been a long road down for the guy. I used to watch Dennis Miller Live as a kid. He made me into the verbose dickhead I am today.

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It's been a long road down for the guy. I used to watch Dennis Miller Live as a kid. He made me into the verbose dickhead I am today.

He started doing a podcast with Carolla a few weeks ago.

Carolla fans hope that Miller can make Adam tolerable (Adam steamrolls everyone on his show, but he wont do that to Miller. Respects him too much)


Anyway, he's still kinda funny but (and this is cliche but true) he's become a caricature of himself. The obscure references seem more planned and crafted than ever.


He said SNL 40 should have started with Lovitz doing the Liar bit and Brian Williams coming in and saying "Yeah, that's the ticket"

I chuckled at that

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Dennis Miller and Norm are #1 and #1A on my Weekend Update rankings, by the way.


Second that on norm. I started with nealon but damn did I like norm. I loved when his jokes fell flat but he kept on going. And I hated Colin Quinn for replacing him. To this day when I listen to a podcast and they name him as a great comic I become irate. Never as good as norm.

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All I can say is I am a Norm fanboy. I thought he was great on the 40th thing. I think he is great in everything he does. I find it hard to find a fault in the man. I suppose I could say that I don't. Perhaps if it is revealed later that he knowingly starved a songbird over a period of several months in order to gain spare change from ladies of the manor squire, I may consider him a scoundrel. However, short of that, I will always adore Norm.

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Who are safer drivers: men or women? Well, according to a new survey, 55% of adults feel that women are most responsible for minor fender-benders, while 78% blame men for most fatal crashes. Please note that the percentages in these pie graphs do not add up to 100% because the math was done by a woman.

For those of you hissing at that joke, it should be noted that that joke was written by a woman, so now you don't know what the hell to do, do you?

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Who are safer drivers: men or women? Well, according to a new survey, 55% of adults feel that women are most responsible for minor fender-benders, while 78% blame men for most fatal crashes. Please note that the percentages in these pie graphs do not add up to 100% because the math was done by a woman.

For those of you hissing at that joke, it should be noted that that joke was written by a woman, so now you don't know what the hell to do, do you?

No, I'm just kidding. We don't hire women.


Norm is a treasure. I remember he once totally mangled the word "Caribbean"--he somehow managed to combine the Care-uh-BE-uhn pronunciation and the CUH-rib-e-uhn pronunciation in some bizarre, irreproducible way. He finished the joke, then smiled and said "two correct ways to say that word, and I missed both of them" and moved on. It was a totally random, throwaway moment, but even at the time (i was probably 14), I realized that very few comics could build a persona of arrogant dickery, puncture it so effectively on the fly, and then immediately re-deploy it for the next joke.

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